where are these Leyland Buildings

[Karen]

OK Frank ... flash of light!!!
I think the Saddlers was Croziers.

[anacortesdamp]

Karen:

Flashes of light are always illuminating. I don't even remember there was a saddler/leather shop at the end of that row. I can recall the Norweb shop, next door was a florist (Robinson's?), then a tailor (Waring's?), but the end shop is lost to memory. I'm honestly not sure of either of the other names. Old fart syndrome, I guess!


Frank


Frank

[Wilko]

Waring's outfitters was at 2 Manchester Terrace in 1924. (The date of 1921 I gave is wrong) The row of shops north of the Con Club (Manchester Terrace) are clearly shown on the 1893 and 1901 maps (see Noel's posts)
DW

[Karen]

Hi Derek,

Just noticed that you had already named
Croziers ... could have save myself some brain
searching!!!

Mr Waring the Tailor's two daughters attended my old
school Winckley Square in Preston. We all travelled to
Preston on the 8.20am Fishwick or the Ribble(from Wigan)
.... the 112 I think!!

The shopfront had these wonderful rounded windows on
each side of the entrance.

[garn1943]

Sidewalk? Frank,you've been in Yankee land too long,they are still pavements in Leyland,just being pedantic.

[Wilko]

Richard,
To a 'true' Leylander, they are 'Footpads' !!
DW

[Colin Damp]

As I recall Cow Lane ran from Towngate, in between a branch of the District Bank (later NatWest) and the house that abutted Harold Baron's estate agents and saleroom. It was a dirt track which ended at the gates of what became Tomlinson's funeral directors (and I think was originally the Bleach Works manager's house).

I didn't know the row of shops next to the Con Club in Towngate was once called Manchester Terrace and I don't remember the end one being a saddler's. It was used as storage for Waring's outfitters nexr door when I was small.

As to the Masonic Hall, I performed there in what was known as the Palm Court at many a civic and Rotary do (as well as some Masonic ladies' evenings) when I went round with a small singing group comprising me, Eileen and Peter Eagle, Brian Gates and with Leo Hall on the piano. Happy days! But I think the Masons once met in a large terraced house in the street by the side of the old Public Hall, at the back of which the Masonic Hall I remember was later built.

Lancastergate was driven through the old LUDC yard at the other side of the Public Hall. I took my cycling proficiency test there. There was a Civil Defence hut there and the old UDC fire station before the present County Fire Brigade station was built in Broadfield Drive.

[garn1943]

I stand corrected Frank

[rocketmanjohn]

Funny isn't it, the term 'Yankee' means, in the USA, someone from the New England states, English, Welsh, Scots and Irish originally. The rest of the world believes it means anyone from the USA.
John

[anacortesdamp]

Maybe it expanded a little bit to inlcude New York State, John. But certainly we out in the western states wouldn't be considered "Yankees". You guys would be "Rebs" living in the south!

I think the term "Yanks" became synonymous with the US forces who were in England during WW2 - "overpaid, over-sexed and over here", and it has became a generic term. for anyone from the US. Most Brits have no idea how big and diverse the US is.

Certainly, nobody I've met considers me to be native-born. My Lancashire accent is still quite strong. There's some contoversy about calling only the "Indians" (who have never been anywhere near India) "Native Americans". Surely, anyone born in a country is a "native", though maybe white people born in Kenya or one of the other former colonies might not agree.

I think our neighbours to the north have a better term, calling the indigenous people "First Nation People".

When I've been back to Leyland, quite a few people have commented on my "American accent". I've concluded it's not the accent so much as the vocabulary. As Garn pointed out, I used the term "sidewalk", I also put "gasoline' in the car and drive on the "freeway". There are hundreds of other small details that make me souns American to folks in Leyland and very "Lanky" to folks here.

Frank