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Does anyone out there remember Robert Frank Sumner (known as Frank), who ran a butcher's/grocery business round Earnshaw Bridge, probably in the 1960s? In 1962,he married a girl called Marjorie Ban(n)ister whose parents then ran the Broadfield Arms. During the war, Frank's mother Joyce used to drive a horse & cart through Leyland, helping out with the family business when Frank's father Bob was too ill to work due to frequent bouts of asthma. Some of the older Leylanders may recall them. Frank (the first cousin of my late husband) later went into the licensing trade, managing pubs in Blackpool, Cleveleys and finally in Cheshire, where, sadly, he died suddenly from a heart attack in the 1980s.His funeral was held at St Andrew's Church in Leyland, and there wasn't a spare seat in the church.
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Dotty- that's surely the Joyce Sumner who ran the shop from a cabin in Sumner's farmyard off Broadfield Drive? I remember going to the shop for Mum when I was quite small. Still am quite small, but speaking relatively!!
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Yes, Caroline, it is the very same! She was my late husband's aunt and was quite a character. She died nine years ago, aged 81, and is buried in Hill Road cemetery, Penwortham.Nice to catch up with you again.quote:
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Dotty- that's surely the Joyce Sumner who ran the shop from a cabin in Sumner's farmyard off Broadfield Drive? I remember going to the shop for Mum when I was quite small. Still am quite small, but speaking relatively!!
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I'm sure we've mentioned Frank before. Wasn't there a rag bone man called Sumner, and Ernie Sumner does anyone remember that fine gentleman who lived down Moss Lane and lived to 99 I think, he could be seen cycling round Leyland and Farington in his nineties as he ran his business.
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Frank may well have been mentioned before, Noel, perhaps before I joined the Forum! He was, by all accounts, quite a well known character around Leyland, but I don't know of any connection between him and Ernie the rag & bone man.
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Ernie wasn't a rag and bone man dottymapley it was another man called sumner I THINK!! I remember him ( the rag bone man ) with blonde hair and scruffy coat riding a horse and cart , back to Ernie , he was a true gentleman who ran a loan business I think. He lived with his son, but can't remember the son's name. I remember him coming to my parents' house collecting weekly, there were no plastic cards in those days, must have been hard times.
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This doesn't seem to be the same man I'm remembering.
Ernie was a slightly hunched figure with a thick moustache , full head of hair even in his nineties. Wore a trilby. Always had bike clips on and usually riding or pushing the bile. He died in the sixties I think, before Lever House estate ie St Davids? was built, lived near Iddon's dentist in one of the big semis or terraces on that side of the road. Brenda Pickburn my old primary school teacher lived nearby as well.
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I'm pretty sure the rag and bone man was also called Frank Sumner.
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Originally posted by shuffy
I'm pretty sure the rag and bone man was also called Frank Sumner.
Your right Dedrah, I just had a sudden flash picture of him. Not the blonde haired lad but still with horse and cart, rough type of character, I remember him giving my parents 3d for an old washing machine . My sister bought a house off him up LongMeanygate in the late sixties. Memories returning, but this isn't the man dotty was on about was it? There's a bit about the sumner family on peter's website.http://www.houghton59.fsnet.co.uk/fest%2004.htm
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Good heavens, Shuffy, I've started something here, haven't I? The Frank Sumner to whom I refer was definitely in butchering & retail before going into the licensing trade.. His father Bob died in the early 1960s. My aunt, Margaret Snape (nee Rumsey) from Earnshaw Bridge remembers Frank's mother Joyce driving the horse & cart round Leyland during the war years and after.quote:
Originally posted by shuffy
I'm pretty sure the rag and bone man was also called Frank Sumner.
